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3 Day Potty Training With Lora Jensen: Day 3

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Great news!!! Katie is completely potty trained!

Ha ha. I am NOT serious. April Fools!

On to the real post:

Remember how I said I was done being superwoman? Scratch that. Since I am pregnant/selling our house/potty training I was planning to ask my mom for help with making some meals this week. She, um, started packing and made up this crazy story about having planned a trip to my sisters long in advance. Like I am going to buy that! (Love you, Gigi)

So, no help on the meal front and I don’t want to let my groceries go bad. Have I mentioned yet that Daddypotamus is sick? Yeah, that too. So it is me vs. potty training/keep house clean so it will sell/make meals. Bring it on!! Just kidding, I am so scared I am about to pee my pants (but I won’t because that would be a very bad example!)

Last night I tried to do some prep ahead of time to keep things simple, if you call simple grinding wheat in your front yard at 10pm because it’s too loud to do in the house. The upside of making mayonnaise and starting the pizza and tortilla dough is that I got to see this:

Nice view for grinding wheat, don’t you think? Now, jumping right in . . .

Nightime Training

I sent this question to Lora Jensen a few days ago:

How do they transition into sensing when they need to urinate while they’re asleep so that they wake up and go to the restroom? Not sure if this would affect anything but we do co-sleep with her.

Julie Jensen responded (her daughter, maybe?). Here’s what she had to say:

Co-sleeping shouldn’t have a large effect on the training, however, you just have to put up with accidents in your bed. If she does have accidents during the nights, the best way to teach her how to wake prior to when she would release is to pin point when the accidents are happening. Once you have an idea of when they occur, then you should begin taking her to the potty just prior to those times, before the accident takes place. If you do this consistently to where she has multiple dry nights, then she is going to learn to wake herself and go potty before releasing in her bed. It could take a few nights to get your times accurate enough, but once you do, it will be smooth sailing from there.

Last night Katie stayed dry from 7pm – 4am. Nine hours! I checked her at 4am and she was dry. I asked her to tell me if she needs to go potty she was so out she didn’t even respond. Five minutes later she started moving around and was sopping wet.  So now we’ve pin pointed “accident hour.”

Today we prepped for night time training by laying in bed and pretending to be asleep. Then I would say “Katie, wake up. Tell me if you need to go potty, ok?” She loves this game, and I hope it helps because so far she has simply ignored me every time I try to wake her.

Move move move!

Katie was dry for 2 hrs at naptime until I dawdled in bed for 30 seconds after she woke up. Sheesh, no margin here!

When will it “click”?

It’s obvious: there is no going back now. Unfortunately, I don’t think Katie has connected the urge to potty with the need to tell me and hurry to the restroom. We have been mostly accident free because I constantly say “Tell mommy if you need to go potty, ok?” She has yet to volunteer that she needs to go potty at any other time than immediately after I say that to her.

What now?

As part of our Day 1 ceremony we packed away all of Katie’s cloth diapers and put the changing table in the garage. Lora says the purpose is to communicate the end of the diapering stage to the child, but  I think it is really for the parent. Katie has made a lot of progress in the last 3 days, but I don’t feel very confident going back to life as normal, especially to run errands and such. In some ways I’d love to go back to diapers because it is predictable, but I won’t.  So I have a few questions for you moms who have already blazed this trail.

  1. How did it “click” for your child?
  2. How did you handle going potty away from home? I don’t go many places but I am considering taking a little potty chair everywhere with me because public toilets are gross!

Thank you in advance.

Love you, wise mommies!


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14 Responses to 3 Day Potty Training With Lora Jensen: Day 3

  1. Des says:

    oh the “click”. :-) wouldn’t that be great to be able to know how to get each individual kid to that point?
    We started and stopped potty training (I know a HUGE no-no), but she was just too young (we started her at 19 months). Then started again at 22 months and this time, on the 2nd day she got it. But that’s not to say that we didn’t have a bazillion accidents for the next few months, but it did “click” where she made a connection with the urge to the toilet and told us. But it’s a long haul process. Yesterday she had THREE accidents! she hasn’t had an accident in months upon months, and then all of a sudden, three in one day.
    Just remember CONSISTENCY!
    And I know you are really wanting her to not have one on at night, but coming from myself who wet the bed till I was NINE YEARS OLD. Some kids are just too deep of sleepers and it just takes years for their bladders to get big enough. Lyric would sleep with a pull up on at night till about 2 or 3 months ago (So for a year after she was officially potty trained). I know my sister’s kids were similar.
    But I’ve also heard of stories where they are TOTALLY trained, even night trained, very quickly. So I’m not wanting to discourage you, but also let you know that it’s really normal if your kid doesn’t get the night training thing quickly. It’s VERY difficult to teach a child to recognize urges when they are dead asleep.
    .-= Des´s last blog ..Passover 2010 =-.

  2. Heather says:

    Thank you, Destiny. A few months ago Katie was barely sleeping through the night and now I am yelling “Do you need to go potty??” in her ear 10 times before she even stirs. I can’t believe she has become such a deep sleeper! Last night she had an accident and completely slept through it. I think I will give it another week or so to “click” and if nighttime is still and issue I will move to pull-ups.

  3. Lesley says:

    Heather-I have thoroughly enjoyed reading your posts this week–and want to say hats off to you mama for being so diligent when you are carrying soo many other plates!!We have been “kinda” training Austin for FOREVER now and are really getting more serious now…but I feel so overwhelmed by it and a new baby coming so soon. You are an encouragement just cause you are at least REALLY trying!! And grinding wheat!! LOL!

    • Heather says:

      Thank you for the encouragement, Lesley. It’s definitely going to be an ongoing process. Today we left the house for the first time sans diapers and I forgot to bring extra panties and shorts! She didn’t have an accident but it was a good reminder that I am going to have to be on my toes for awhile.

      One of my main motivations in doing this now is that I don’t want to have to attempt it with I am 7-9 months pregnant, but if I had your constant morning sickness I don’t think 4 months would have looked much better!

      Austin will get it, don’t worry! I wouldn’t doubt it if he senses the upcoming transition and steps up for you this time around.

  4. Jessica says:

    Ava required her own potty chair EVERYWHERE we went. I came to despise that little pink potty! LOL If we didn’t have it, NO WAY she would go in a public potty…She would much prefer the grass behind any building. UGH! Easton has wanted nothing to do with a little potty. But everytime we go out, I tell her in the car… when we get there, the FIST thing we do is go potty. They can get so distracted by walking through store isles, and saying hi to people. So we go the minute we get somewhere and as we are leaving. (Because they will ALWAYS need to go when you are on your way home and stuck in traffic! LOL If she doesn’t need to it’s fine, but we always take a pit stop at the potty and try. Overnight is hard though. We always have Rick wake them up right before he goes to bed and take them. But sometimes they pee 10 minutes after they fall asleep. I can see it being very frustrating when you are co-sleeping. I would probably lose so much sleep just anticipating her having an accident. You will find the groove that works with her. : )

    • Heather says:

      Hmmm . . . I think we just bought that pink potty. And personally, I prefer the grass, too. When I was a teen I worked in the projects in Atlanta and the restrooms at the WAREHOUSE we were living in were so filthy I developed a serious aversion to public restrooms.

  5. Allison says:

    I started potty training my daugher at 2 1/2 after I saw a potty train in 1 day video. Unfortunately I can’t remember the name of the video. I made my daughter responsible for her accidents. I know it sounds awful but it definetely worked, after the first day she was telling me when she needed to go. I think she just didn’t want to wipe pee off the floor anymore. Night did take longer and she did wear a pull up for along time. I was okay with that and I think that put her at ease knowing I would not be upset if she pottied at night. We still have a travel potty in the back of the truck just in case.

    • Twin Mom says:

      I wish making my sons clean up their own wee worked so well. It had the opposite effect. They love cleaning so much I had to say to them ‘You can’t help mommy clean up today if you wee on the carpet’ lol

  6. Heather says:

    Thanks, Allison. It’s reassuring that most kids seem to be day trained before they get the hang of nighttime training. Those pull-ups are looking better every day!

  7. Cindy says:

    Just want you to know that I am just now sitting down for the first time today- it’s midnight. I went right to your blog… I am rolling!! You crack me up! Mental images of you grinding wheat and waking Katie (what are you doing, didn’t we just rejoice over some sleep?!). Oh my word, this is an absolute hoot! I am so glad you are blogging, you are such a gifted writer. She’ll get it, Katie is way smart. I am proud of you for jumping right in. Yay for big girl panties :)
    .-= Cindy´s last blog ..Cloth Isn’t Just For Clothes… =-.

  8. Kim says:

    The “click”
    I think potty training is like any aspect of childhood development. Some walk early, some walk later. Some talk early, while others are in no hurry at all. Some are independent and want to do things on their own as soon as they are able, but others love the comfort and connection of being spoon fed, carried, dressed, etc. There is no right or wrong here. It is really just a matter of individuality and readiness. Wouldn’t it be great if we were privy to which U.S. Presidents or Hollywood celebrities were potty trained early, and which ones waited until they were older?…and who wet the bed until they were 10? I bet we’d all be surprised. (Some of them are still making messes, but that’s not the point.) The point is, eventually, all kids “get it,” so there is really nothing to worry about. I think that when a child wants to be potty trained, that child is definitely ready. But as far as how long it takes to “click”? There is no way to predict things like this, or to speed things up. But mentally, you’ve got to be in it for the long haul, expecting that some days will be better than others, and knowing that it’s perfectly normal for a child who has been making it to the potty to have a relapse of sorts. If you are expecting these kinds of things, you won’t be frustrated, and neither will your child. And if things go smoother than expected? Great!

    I will say, that as a mom who enjoyed co-sleeping with all five of my babies and toddlers, I do wish I had invested in a waterproof mattress cover for my bed (and mattress covers for their beds from the start as well). I can’t tell you how many times my mattress was peed on, puked on, etc. It was once a snowy winter white, but when we finally hauled it away, it was…uh…not white anymore. Gross. I would actually highly recommend buying two covers, so that when the inevitable happens, you are ready to put on a new cover immediately.

    Peeing in public….
    As far as potty training and public potties, I do have a suggestion. I would recommend buying a potty seat that fits on top of the toilet. You know, the cute little padded kind that makes the opening smaller? There are even seats with little handles on the sides, which could help to keep little hands off of the big potty. Also, I would purchase a small spray bottle and fill it with the disinfectant of your choice. Then you can spray the big potty, and wipe it clean with toilet paper. Then just put your little seat on top. And when you’re done, you can spray and wipe your little seat, especially the parts that had contact with the big toilet.

    Another option would be to wrap the child’s hands, thighs, and bottom in cellophane, leaving an opening just large enough for… OK, I’m not serious. But the truth is, when you go out in public, your child is going to have to go potty, sometimes two or three times! And they all love washing their hands so that afterward, they can enjoy the endlessly fascinating hand dryers. You will inevitably end up spending a lot of time in public restrooms, so you might as well just make the best of it. I mean, even if you did have a potty seat in your car for now, at what age do you stop using it? I guess at some point you could upgrade to a camping toilet, or you could drive a Winnebago. Now that’s a thought! 😉

    But during the actual potty training period, you have several options. One is to use pull-ups in public for a couple weeks. I did, but I would always say, “You still need to tell Mommy if you need to go potty.” The other option? Bring a couple changes of clothes, and a big tub of wipes, and just deal with it if there is an accident (or two, or three, or…OK, you get the idea). It’s great if you can persuade your mom, or hubby, or a friend to shop with you. (And even at that, you should expect your shopping trips to take longer for a while.) And the last and final option, my favorite, is to leave the child at home with Grandma or Dad and shop alone. :-) Hope this helps!

  9. Jackie says:

    My two children were both completely potty trained (day and night) by 2 years old with almost no accidents thereafter. I don’t believe in methods but here are my tips:
    – Cloth nappies (they are bulkier and children feel when they are wet – disposable nappies are way too comfortable). If not possible all the time, then use cloth nappies when you’re at home. I promise that 18- month old children really don’t like them which is a great incentive to use the loo!
    – The loo should be a part of life from about 9 months (or before). Put them on the loo when changing their nappy, before bath, before getting dressed etc. It doesn’t matter if nothing happens for months and months – it’s more to teach them that the loo is part of daily life and so it’s not such a huge shock when the time comes to get rid of nappies!
    – No gimmicks (potties, potty seats, training pants, incentives etc).
    – Ignore signs of “readiness”. They should know about the loo long before they are ready to use it!

    My theory is that children before 2 can learn how to use the loo without too much of a fuss. It’s just another thing they are learning how to do, whereas if you wait until after 2, your child isn’t really a “baby” anymore and has their own thoughts on how things should be done (i.e. you’ve taught them to use a nappy so the process of un-teaching and convincing them to use the loo isn’t going to be straight-forward). My 2.5 year old doesn’t believe she ever wore nappies because they are strictly for little babies!

  10. Jennifer says:

    I have read a lot of reviews and I have to say that the .pdf version of the training material I read really outlined a few things that I feel a lot of people ignored or skimmed over (apparently as a society we skim more than read now, but when teaching something, you better read it first, no?) so for my 2yr old son and I it went really well. Did accidents happen? Yes. usually once a day. Did they happen when i wasn’t focused or with him? Yes. Did all of her advice work if i applied them, YES YES YES. We chose not to night time potty for now as we just wanted to get through daytime first before tackling night time issues. But already I can see how this would be easy applying again all of her principles. She outlines not trying to potty train before certain milestones have been achieved by your child. If you skip these then of course it won’t go as well. My son was past the recommended age to start and he knew how to get undressed. He showed signs of interest in the potty that had sat in the bathroom for a few weeks. We did not leave the house to even go in the backyard during this time because proximity to the potty is key those early days. We used praise as he responds well to this. Was it easy and without stress, no, but it went by quickly and we are confident it will stick. We finished the 3 day training a few days ago and with some grace and patience everything is great. I write this comment because it is easy to get discouraged and I think the pdf file is worth reading through and applying most of the methods. Good luck mama’s!!!

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